LunarSol wrote:
It's mostly a list of models with stats that are above average, more than anything. To some degree, I went for models that lacked stats that were below average in any category. I guess you could call it my top 6 gladiators viewed independently and without considering synergies.
Aquila and Hroka are probably the most "above the board" stat wise models as far as I can tell. Great damage (Hroka has one of the best raw damage trees in the game), some of the most durable defensive stats, quick, good abilities. No obvious drawbacks either outside of not having a large base or other form of push protection (most models don't).
Gaius actually has a couple drawbacks, notably his speed, but Undying and Regrowth puts him in his own class and I think we all know he can be a monster.
The other 3 were more of a stretch. Khepros is more of the "no weakness" kind of model, but he's not got much in the way of notable strengths either. Durable with good pushes. He's similar to Aquila and Hroka but only deals average instead of above average damage.
Hermes is similar, but has the drawback of his damage topping out below average. I don't consider this to be a huge drawback though, as getting 5 successes isn't something you should build your plan around. His Aegis I believe easily makes up for it.
I threw Viatrix in at the end because she's super durable and all around very useful. Realistically she probably gets cut first, simply because nobody here needs to be protected by Taunt and she can lack damage. Even if she doesn't make my top 6, I think she's an easy top 10.
Interesting. Im not trying to debate but I want to bring up a few things.
#1-Most of these models you brought up dont have favor, re positions, or fatigue in their damage tree. They do have special rules too, but theyre not quite as game changing as some. Aquila for example has some pretty basic ones. Theyre fitting, but nothing like Bjarvhit's trapping just to find a comparison.
#2-Hroka's damage tree is really not that special. Go over the stat cards. Theres quite a few models who get to 11 damage in 5 successes. I still think shes plenty good, but Im struggling to find above average as opposed to solid. Her and Aquila also both have 6/6/2/2 for their main stats, which is held by most of Legio and Ludus Magnus. Nothing too overboard.
As for the whole comment in general, it seems to be I'd describe your 'above average' models (sorry if I mis interpret) as just
Solid. They do good damage and have good defense and armor and there arent any glaring holes to work around. They make a good shield wall. But also, all in a force together, they can be pushed, dont have many special rules that are really unique besides Hroka's war cry(but that needs plenty of successes). I guess maybe Im splitting hairs sorry, but I find diagnosing these models fun. Khepros is good too but again....hes also kind of blah. His special rules are decent but his damage tree is just basic as it can be. I think the creators talked about the idea that some models have more basic stats and more interesting rules and vice versa.
Also....I never find Viatrix a problem. I played against her a few times and basically she is hard to take out fast because of the 3/2 for defense and armor, but otherwise very basic.
To me Gaius is a clear cut over the top guy because he has the state line minus movement. In addition he has amazing special rules. His damage tree is in the TOP tier in the game. Base bigger....hes got nothing negative at all and several things that are above average. idk.....guess thats just how I see it.
So...is this the army you use? Thats interesting.....
Having an army that across the way is 6 attacks, 2 defense, 2 armor minimum is always going to be tough to play against.