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| Author: | RidiQles [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
KaptainWalrus wrote: The fact that Morituri benefits are the only ones to not specify faction gladiators makes me a bit salty. I have a feeling that when the Nerf Stick comes down (as it inevitably does once a game develops a more competitive meta) that will be the first thing to go. The Will of Antony would still be a very strong ability even if it only applied to Morituri models. Back to Rampage in a clear turn: 1. Acerbus clears his fatigue. 2. Acerbus uses Maneuver to get closest to an enemy model. 3. Acerbus performs his Wild Attack. 4. Acerbus uses Rampage to run through that model (and any others). 5. Acerbus uses Rampage again (no restrictions on how many times you can trigger this) to run through that model again (and any others in the way). Sounds brutal... it is markedly stronger in a clear turn than on his activation because of the Wild Attack. During his activation he could technically use Rampage twice, but an attack would, in most situations, be a better move. On the clear turn he gets a free Wild attack and he doesn’t have the option to make any other attacks, so two Rampages are pretty good. Of course, he will be exhausted... but he will have potentially either fatigued or damaged a lot of models. |
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| Author: | Wishing [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Yeah, I agree with that analysis. Which is why having abilities that can be used both during an activation and during a clear turn for the same cost seems weird to me. Take Ur-Kek as an example. He can make an attack as an action for one fatigue, or he can make an attack during a clear turn for two favor (using Cleo's Gift). That seems to make sense to me. The point of a normal clear turn is that you don't normally get to attack. So getting to break that rule costs extra, of the resource that you use during clear turns, i.e. favor. Dictate costing one fatigue to use as an action and one fatigue to use during a clear turn doesn't feel right to me. Basically, I feel like you should never be able to use fatigue as a cost for anything during a clear turn. The mechanic of the clear turn is that you clear fatigue, not use it, so anything you do during that turn costs favor instead of fatigue (like a move). I don't like special rules that override that very elegant principle. |
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| Author: | Wishing [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Good news everyone - I emailed Walker over the weekend, and he said that he has time to come on into the forum and answer some questions soon.  Among other things, he said that the intent is that you *cannot* use Rampage on a clear turn. As we suspected. |
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| Author: | KaptainWalrus [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Very nice, glad to hear it. I'm also very glad Rampage wasn't intended for clear turns. As RidiQles pointed out, Rampaging wild attacks seemed extremely powerful. |
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| Author: | Wishing [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
I'm not sure I agree that it seems extremely powerful, especially considered how pillow-fisted Acerbus' attacks are - but it doesn't seem (and apparently isn't) intended. |
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| Author: | KaptainWalrus [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
It's not how much damage he deals, its how far and easily he can move a model around. But like you said, now that we are getting an official wording, it doesn't matter, hahaha. |
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| Author: | Wishing [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
I had expected Walker to have come in to comment by now, but I don't wanna hassle him, so instead I will just copy paste what he emailed me. Not official, obviously, but maybe nice to have anyway. Q: Can Acerbus use Rampage on a clear turn? Same question for Thoth's Necrosis. A: No, expect a FAQ or errata on those sometime soon. |
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| Author: | KaptainWalrus [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Thanks for providing these answers. It's nice to see there will be an update coming soon. Also nice to know our initial interpretation that these types of "cost" abilities, are to be treated like actions in the active turn. |
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| Author: | Wishing [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Some of them. Not Dictate. |
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| Author: | KaptainWalrus [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What is a Rampage? |
Sure, that is an exception. But I would imagine that is only due to the fact it deals with tactics, which are clear turn exclusive. |
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